Skip to main content

Tesla at $2,000

 I am a huge fan of Tesla, but the recent price action on the stock confirms that the world has gone mad!  Tesla is trading at a multiple of 1,038x earnings...Yep, it will take 1,000 years for Tesla to earn its profits.  Now I always thought that for the manufacturing sector a p/e of 17 -- 25x was well priced and justifiable, and even you could say that Facebook and Google (in brand new sectors) would justify a P/E of 50 or even 100 times --- these were new sectors completely undiscovered and with tons of low hanging fruits.  Facebook proved again and again that theirs was a very lucrative niche.  But cars have been around for a while, it's not like Tesla has discovered the holy grail of a car that will last forever and cost nothing to run.  Sure it is better than virtually all ICE vehicles.

A few weeks ago a friend asked me if I would buy Tesla at $1,700 -- I thought no, I agree with the Motley Fool that there's some kind of craziness with the pricing of Tesla.  There is no doubt that the company is now profitable (you cannot say that with Ford) but GM is profitable and it's P/E is 28.

What is driving that insane valuation are a number of factors:

  1. Million-mile battery -- that will effectively challenge the electric grid as we know it (because a million-mile car is not a serious car, its a car for 7/10 years and a battery pack for another 10
  2. Inclusion of Tesla into the S&P500
  3. Tesla becoming a supplier of batteries to other car manufacturers
The third one is the only really interesting one (batteries as a balancer or even time shifter are already here) because Tesla's point was always wider than just making cars -- it was also shifting from ICE to batteries for the entire industry, and Tesla knows that it cannot do so alone.  Elon Musk has been vocal about electric cars having a "minimum range of 300 miles" as a game-changer for the sector.  Tesla cannot manufacture all the cars (nor does it want to), but it does want everyone having a 300-mile range...that's interesting.

Still at 2,006 .38 this morning (down 2.4%) I think that Tesla share is a sell, but who the fu$k am to have an opinion

Note:  No position in Tesla (short or long) and no position on Ford or GM

P.S.  All those lawsuits against Musk complaining that the "deal that was not" cost them money must be wondering if they should keep on bitching, when the privatization would have been done at $425.00 per share...

Comments

Popular posts from this blog

what people get wrong about tariffs

 The issue is simple. What percentage of the economy is dependent on tariff goods? The truth, is that the US economy is far more closed than people understand. People genuinely believe that all manufacturing has ceased to exist in the United States all given to China on the altar of woke policy the truth can be further from That statement. Only about 15% of US GDP is related to foreign trade. Of that amount, slightly more than half is from Canada in Mexico. And half of that is energy. What that means, is that about 7% of US GDP is tariff dependent. The proof in the pudding, is how little money tariff generates. People think that 30 or 50 billion is a lot it’s not in an economy that has $3 trillion. The impact on the US economy will be less visible but not absent. Inflation hasn’t occurred yet first because tests have hardly started to bite, but more importantly it’s such a small percent of the economy. Now certain things are critical. The rare earth metals from China were critical....

The end of Tesla?

 it takes a special kind of idiot, to think that he can antagonize his entire customer base, and think that it will not impact his business. When Elon Musk went to work for Donald Trump, and created the doge department, he antagonized every liberal, and these people represent 90% of his client base.That’s not a brilliant move. Now Elon Musk is worth hundreds of billions of dollar, so he shouldn’t care a great deal, however, he needs to care because of several other issues. The cyber truck has been a disaster, most have had to be recalled because of defective glue, it’s not a truck, it’s not a car, it’s noisy, relatively uncomfortable, but great as a development platform. What Tesla has learned in making car manufacturing more seamless is truly amazing. The problem was that Elon Musk was so pissed with the Democrats, and with Joe Biden, in particular because of some slight, which were just plain stupid too. By the way, that he decided to support with hundreds of millions of dollar, ...

Trump and Venezuela...

The US now owns Venezuela…and not in a good way.  America is not known for its nation building skills, and yet it now owns the disaster that is Venezuela.   Starvation and exodus are the natural progression.   In addition it will become a haven for narco-terrorists, more so than it already was. I am sure that Trump and his friends really thought that little attack very well…I guess that he will now attack Iran now.